The Brexit cliff edge – WT actual F?

I have to apologise in advance. The following post is going to contain swearing and lots of it. I usually do my best to refrain from swearing in my posts and I’m actually pretty sure that I’ve managed not to swear in any of my posts so far (I think).
However, I did see somewhere in a study that they think swearing actually means you are a very smart person so it’s quite possible that this will be my smartest post yet – I won’t hold my breath.

So what’s happened to invoke my expletive laden wrath?  I’ll start at the very beginning, a very good place to start………… (sorry).

Several decades ago we had a referendum and agreed to join an economic union with a few other countries. Over time more countries joined and then a few less decades ago the government at that time, without a referendum, took us further into that union and agreed for us to become part of a bigger, more integrated, political union.
Many people in the UK didn’t like being part of that bigger political union and over time resistance grew and last year we had another referendum and decided to leave said political union……… and that’s it.

I mean what the actual fuck……….. That’s seriously all it is.
And what’s going to change that’s so terrible?
Well these three things for starters.
IMMIGRATION-
We’ll have a sensible immigration control system. So if you’re a doctor and you want to work here and we need doctors we’ll give you a visa and if you like the look of the UK we hope you’ll want to come here and work. And if you subsequently like it here we hope you’ll stay.
If you’re a student from Europe and you want to come and work here in the summer you can apply for a summer work visa online – it’ll take you about 10 minutes, and you’ll probably get your visa in about 10 minutes.
If anyone in the UK wants to visit Europe you can apply for a visa online, it’ll take about 10 minutes and will probably last around 10 years before needing to be renewed.
But guess what? If you’re a Murderer, a Rapist, a Paedophile or a Religious/Political nut job… you’re not invited!!!

LAWS (This is a tricky one) –
We’ll make our own laws and enforce them ourselves (gasp!)

TRADE –
The EU is a protectionist fucking state. Tariffs coming out of its ears preventing trade with the rest of the world and we will be free of that.
After we have left we will set our own ‘free trade’ deals. We’ll still trade with the EU and we’ll also trade directly with literally the rest of the fucking world, and many companies will want to come here to tap into our economy as well.

And that’s really just about it.

But aren’t there some areas that will be negatively affected?? Of course there are. But with some good management, there’s nothing that can’t be effectively mitigated.

So what the actual fuck is the problem? There’s nothing here that can’t be easily delivered by anyone that wants to.

The remainers seem to be trying to force the biggest ‘nothing burger’ in the history of man fucking kind down the throat of this nation.  I wouldn’t mind if I could understand what the fuck they were going on about but how is an immigration system like what I described above, and like what the rest of the fucking world uses, racist? And how the fuck is being out of a tariff obsessed protectionist state, and becoming a ‘free trade’ based country, like ‘walking off a cliff edge’? My fucking brain is melting.

One of my biggest concerns is that we have MP’s talking this fucking shit. And what’s my actual concern with that?……..it’s that they’re fucking MP’s for fuck sake…….that’s what we’ve got in our fucking parliament!!!

So someone please save me. Please explain to me, in sentences that exclude phrases like “you’re just a fucking racist”, or equally nonsensical comments like “BUT WE’RE GOING TO FALL OFF A CLIFF EDGE” (That doesn’t even fucking mean anything by the way), why it’s such a big deal? Like I said, the Brexit ‘Fear’ is a nothing burger, we’ve left a political union, some things in our economy will change and get comparatively worse- that’s to be expected. And some things will change and get comparatively better. And that’s it. That’s really fucking it.

So, if you haven’t got an actual argument against Brexit and I mean an actual one, not some stupid unsubstantiated soundbite, please, just give it a rest and let the government get on with it.

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44 thoughts on “The Brexit cliff edge – WT actual F?

  1. Very well said. Unfortunately we can make as much noise as we like in favour of Brexit. It’s what the country wants. More importantly, it’s what the country needs.
    But you have failed to address one important point. Who are the remoaners ? The vast majority are self servers on the EU gravy train and have a huge amount to lose. As long as we are still in,they are lining their pockets. As soon as we are out they are screwed. Can’t wait. But we must stand up to their scaremongering and bullying tactics. If we want out we must fight for our freedom from Brussels

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    1. Totally in agreement, well said, brilliantly put and sums the EU and those remoaners up a treat. If falling off the edge of a cliff is what we are doing (whatever that means) then, bring it on. It has to be better than belonging to this farcical, political European gravy boat state.

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      1. Absolutely 🙂 Any so called ‘negatives’ can be dealt with by anyone with half a brain and the desire to actually want this to work. The economy ‘structure’ will shift and that will require change – for the better. All more preferable than being in the EU 🙂

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    2. Agreed Jeremy. They will do everything they can to keep us in or ‘half’ in. Defining ‘who are the remoaners” is almost impossible:-) Mainly it’s anyone anywhere who can’t accept the result and are now seeking to overturn it! Includes many in high up positions in politics and media, and also many ‘normal’ people on social media pushing a deliberately negative narrative from many angles hoping to unnerve Brexit voters and swing polls to the ‘remain’ advantage to make it look like the country is changing its mind. We can all help in our own small way to push the positive narrative – or in this case tell them to F- off 🙂

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  2. Totally correct!…not to mention the fact that the UK is the second biggest contributor to the EU…for fucking what? – letting terrorists, on a daily basis, into our country, allowing people who have never paid into the system use our NHS and get benefits and housing which we’ve paid for all our lives? Is it any wonder the bastards are flocking here in their THOUSANDS?

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    1. Yeh, I don’t blame them. I’d come here if I was them. Read my piece in my ‘politics’ segment – “Two groups of ideological fanatics are destroying the West”. I talk about what you’re saying here I think 🙂

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  3. Hits the Proverbial Nail on the Head, all Exactly as it Should and Will Be! Sick of Hearing Those Doom Ridden Remoaners,
    Let’s See The Optimism that this Change in History Affords Us!
    We Should Never Have Been Conned into It in The First Place!

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    1. Definitely, the remoaners are out in force to push a deliberately negative narrative. They want Brexit to be stopped or, if they can’t do that, then to fail in the hope that we will then decide to rejoin. They would rather the country failed and will actively work towards that, even though it would have prospered without their interference, just to prove themselves ‘right’. Let’s not let that happen. We have to counter their sick narrative 🙂

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  4. It’s worse than you’ve mentioned on the historical side. We didn’t actually have a referendum to join the Common market, it was an Act of Parliament by the Heath government. When quizzed about it he said it would be good for trade, wouldn’t affect our relationship with the Commonwealth AND would not mean relinquishing any sovereignty. Big fibber!! 2 years later the Wilson government gave us a referendum asking us if we wished to remain in the Common market. This was seen as a firm of public ratification as some believed that by voting to join the EEC it was illegal under 1689 Declaration of Rights for MPs to do so.

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    1. I was about to put this point. Apparently we could not join the “common market” without a referendum but Ted Heath would not call a referendum bacause he said the British people would not want it so he signed us up – illegally – anyway. Harold Wilson realised the illegality of this so he decided to call a retrospective referendum, asking if we wanted to remain in the common market. They had the fear factor even then. They kept telling us what a disaster it would be if we left and the millions off would cost. As it was only the common market at that time a lot of people decided to vote to remain. If only they could have seen what the corrupt people in charge had in mind. I voted to come out as I did this time. Your article Mac is brilliant – spot on and what I have been trying to tell people I know who are remainers.

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      1. Eileen i read about the EU wanting to build a superstate years ago. and found it (naively) hard to believe…. since then …. (and i don’t wear a tin hat) i have found that since the 1930’s the world’s richest families wanted to build a totalitarian state, by introducing exactly what is happening today. MASS IMMIGRATION…. getting minority ethnics and different cultures to interbreed and so diminish the structure and cultures that were so integral to peoples lives, i was born and bred a Londoner (East London) i no longer recognise the east end of London and the close knit unity of friends and family. we are being slowly pushed out … a sort of legal genocide. killing our identities. so, back to my main point, the Kalergi plan (over 80 years ago ) a plan of the world’s richest families taking control of more of the planets wealth. even now there are around 100 families that own a quarter of the planets wealth. and they want MORE. and we the Sheeple are falling for every conceivable trick in the book. it’s happening under peoples noses… and THEY cannot SEE it. read more: http://www.theoccidentalobserver.net/2016/10/04/the-coudenhove-kalergi-plan-white-genocide-by-design-part-1/

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      1. Mac…. i absolutely loved your post. and i have copied and pasted it on a few anti EU socail media sites. i hope you don’t mind… this fantastic piece of reading needs to be seen and hopefully convince some of the remoaners… to alter their vision of this EU propaganda machine.

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  5. The all of this point – the EU will die without UK and all this bulshit you see on media it’s all dictated by EU to scare UK people and wont them to stay in EU. But only one part will gets biggest down effect is EU, UK will grow stronger and bigger without EU! And i’m, myself – i’m the foreigner, living in uk around 14 years, paying taxes and N.I., council taxes and all other bills! I hate those free living things, who crying for help, and milking UK last penny to get bigger houses, bigger cars, but themselves, they do not even want to move a finger to do anything about and earn a penny!

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  6. I voted to leave, but I think you are missing the point about the “cliff edge”. It’s all about trade on “the day after” – should the UK leave both the EU and single market without an agreement.
    On that day, the UK’s status will have changed from that of a single market member to that of ‘third country’ and very different rules will be applied to the UK’s goods and services. Commonly referred to as non-tariff barriers, these are mostly bureaucratic barriers to trade. They include such things as recognition of licences and standards and the mutual recognition of other member country’s systems and ways of doing trade. In the 21st century these non-tariff barriers are far bigger barriers to trade than tariffs and trade deals are more about non-tariff barriers than anything else.
    Currently the UK is a single market (EEA) member and it’s goods are allowed to flow freely past customs points etc., but should we leave without a deal, our goods will be subjected to long delays at best and refused entry at worst and this will quickly lead to a clogging up of the continental ports. A a knock on effect will be felt in the British ports and there will be queues of trucks along all roads leading into our ports . All UK exports to the EU would suffer and imports of food (some say up to 30% of what is sold in the supermarkets) from the continent would also suffer. As ‘alternative’ trade deals take a very long time to set up the consequences could be very bad indeed.

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    1. Hi Paul
      Thanks for your reply. I do appreciate the cliff edge concept. I didn’t feel I needed to go into it too much in my post. I feel the ‘cliff edge’ in itself is another ‘nothing burger’ and it bores me that the remoaners go on about it all the time.
      I’ve been involved in negotiations at work. Nobody goes into a negotiation and immediately starts ranting at everyone in the room at the ramifications of ‘not’ reaching a deal. And then continuing to rant on about it for the rest of the duration of the negotiation. It’s implicit in the fact that both parties are at the negotiation that both parties want to reach a deal. The issues you’ve raised above would affect the EU as well in the event of ‘no deal’.
      The whole ‘cliff edge’ thing is just scare mongering. We’ll know in 6 months (or less) if the EU are being sensible or not. If they are being completely outrageous in their demands (which it doesn’t look like they are) then we should walk away and spend our remaining time preparing for the issues you’ve raised above – they can all be resolved if we really had to.
      But I suspect the remoaners will be left with egg on their face. The EU will deal sensibly as will the UK.

      There’s also another point to consider. Many people believe that the’cliff edge/no deal scenario’ would be the best option for us. The issue is that you need to prepare in advance so that on ‘D’ day you have all the cutovers ready.

      If it had been me on the day we triggered Art50 I would have said that the country was organising itself and its procedures for a ‘no deal’ split with the EU i.e. we would deal with the EU like any other country in the world does. I’d spend the next 2 full years preparing for that. On the side I would then try to agree a ‘trade deal’ with Europe safe in the knowledge that on D day we’d be prepared either way.
      Because we are now ‘not’ preparing for a complete split then the concern over a last minute ‘The EU doesn’t agree the deal/cliff edge’ option is a worry for people.

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  7. Well said, your eloquence is far more acceptable publicaly than mine. read this treasonable betrayal……………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………..This classified government document dated April 1971 remained secret until it was released under the 30 year rule. It proves Heath’s government knew the 1972 EEC Treaty would lead to the loss of sovereignty, and was therefore treason. They had a stunningly accurate picture of the EU, which never was the EEC (an Economic Community), expecting Britain to be abolished after the turn of the century.
    The authors, all civil servants or ministers, are very pro EU, their intent is clearly to conceal the loss of sovereignty. But they understood perfectly it would all be abolished.
    In public Heath’s government all lied the treaty would not affect our sovereignty. This includes Douglas Hurd, still an active senior Conservative, who is also both a liar and a traitor, a point we put to him at the Conservative Conference in Blackpool. He assured us his connections in the legal profession would ensure he was never convicted.

    Here are just a few of the damning sentences:

    Parliament controlled
    11. Membership of the Communities will involve us in extensive limitations upon our freedom of action.
    For the first time. Parliament is binding its successors.

    Increasing loss of sovereignty
    The loss of external sovereignty will however increase as the Community develops, according to the intention of the preamble to the Treaty of Rome “to establish the foundations of an even closer union among the European peoples “.
    Small threats to sovereignty, like Burgess, Blunt and Maclean’s selling secrets to the Russians, attract 30 year jail sentences. The penalty for actually loosing even small parts of it until 1998 was “to hang by the neck until dead.”
    King Charles 1st was executed for treason that was, by comparison, relatively minor.
    Lord Haw Haw (“Germany Calling” – William Joyce) was hanged for treason on 3rd January 1946. His efforts on behalf of Germany were tiny by comparison with Edward Heath’s.

    Our law subservient
    12. (ii) The power of the European Court to consider the extent to which a UK statute is compatible with Community Law will indirectly involve an innovation for us, as the European Court’s decisions will be binding on our courts which might then have to rule on the validity or applicability of the United Kingdom statute.
    The writ of a foreign power is not allowed under the British Constitution, which Heath was breaking.

    Predicting monetary and military union
    18..but it will be in the British interest after accession to encourage the development of the Community toward an effectively harmonised economic, fiscal and monetary system and a fairly closely coordinated and consistent foreign and defence policy. If it came to do so then essential aspects of sovereignty both internal and external would indeed increasingly be transferred to the Community itself.

    No withdrawal, sovereignty diminished
    22. Even with the most dramatic development of the Community the major member states can hardly lose the “last resort” ability to withdraw in much less than three decades. The Community’s development could produce before then a period in which the political practicability of withdrawal was doubtful. If the point should ever be reached at which inability to renounce the Treaty (and with it the degeneration of the national institutions which could opt for such a policy) was clear, then sovereignty, external, parliamentary and practical would indeed be diminished.

    Disinformation
    After entry there would be a major responsibility on HMG and on all political parties not to exacerbate public concern by attributing unpopular measures or unfavourable economic developments to the remote and unmanageable workings of the Community.

    Transfer of the Executive
    24 (ii) The transfer of major executive responsibilities to the bureaucratic Commission in Brussels will exacerbate popular feeling of alienation from government.

    Erosion of sovereignty
    24 (v) …The more the Community is developed … the more Parliamentary sovereignty will be eroded. …The right … to withdraw will remain for a very considerable time. …The sovereignty of the State will surely remain unchallenged for this century at least.

    The EU Bureaucracy will rule
    25. The impact of entry upon sovereignty is closely related to the blurring of distinctions between domestic political and foreign affairs, to the greater political responsibility of the bureaucracy of the Community and the lack of effective democratic control.

    The writers understanding of the future of the EU was bang on. They wanted the bureaucracy to take over from the democracy. The loss of sovereignty was desirable for them, legally traitors working deep inside our government.

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    1. Some people saw this coming from a long way away!! Unfortunately, many people aren’t that interested and exposure to this kind of information is ‘strangely’ limited!!. I’m in my 40’s and only became interested in all this in the last few years with the referendum!!! Hopefully it’s not too late for us but I think we have a mountain to climb to reverse the damage and indoctrination that’s been done. Great info btw 🙂

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  8. They have absolutely no argument. All they can do is hurl insults. Remainers are cowardly fools who want to be trendy & have a street “party” and get on the telly. When asked question they never have anything to say but pointless noise.

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  9. Loved the rant but we could have made it more left wing friendly by spraying the whole thing pink and rolling it in sugar just to be totally inclusive and not to ostracize anybody

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